The Twisted Passions of Dr. Mark Harris

Apr 18, 2012 by

 

The Twisted Passions of Dr. Mark Harris

 

My wife received this email on February 23rd at 2:26, she forwarded it to me exactly one minute later. 

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From: Dr. Mark Harris, Senior Pastor, First Baptist Church, Charlotte [mailto:Info@VoteFORMarriageNC.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:26 PM
To: Caroline Ankerson
Subject: Sunday is National Pray for Marriage Day

Dear Marriage Supporter,

The sanctity of marriage is being threatened not only here in North Carolina but throughout our nation. Most recently, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals issued its ruling in the federal challenge to California’s Proposition 8, striking down the expressed will of over 7 million Californians who voted to define marriage as only the union of one man and one woman.

As many of you know, the Alliance Defense Fund has led the charge on defending marriage, not only in California but throughout the nation. We would like to invite you to join them this Sunday, February 26th for a day to pray for marriage – praying that marriages across our land will be strengthened, and that God’s design for marriage will be upheld and honored. We also ask that you take this time to pray for marriage in our own state, and that on May 8th voters throughout the state of North Carolina choose to protect the definition of marriage in the Constitution as the union of one man and one woman. 

Please click here to find a prayer guide that you can use and pass along to others to inform them about this special day. Also, please consider sharing this with your pastor, Bible study, friends and family, so that as many believers as possible will know and participate in this day of unified, focused prayer. 

The future of marriage, both in North Carolina and the nation, is far from decided, and what is happening in California is just another battle in the ongoing war over marriage. Nevertheless, the need for prayer has never been more urgent, for without Christ we can do nothing (John 15:5). We are thankful for the Alliance Defense Fund and its tireless effort to protect marriage as the union of one man and one woman.  

We are working diligently to pass the Marriage Protection Amendment on May 8th so that marriage will be preserved in our state Constitution. We cannot sit back while activists redefine marriage for all of us. We need your support to win this fight.

Please visit www.VoteFORMarriageNC.com to donate, volunteer and get involved.

With your support, we can protect marriage in North Carolina.

Sincerely,
Dr. Mark Harris
Senior Pastor, First Baptist Church, Charlotte
President, NC Baptists

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After reading the last sentence in the email from Dr. Mark Harris, my initial thought was, can anyone just make up a National “whatever” Day? 

I guess so.  No application process, no paperwork to file, just claim a date and tell as many people as possible about your fuckawful day. 

My next thought was, “this email has to be some type of put-on”.  Then I read that Dr. Mark Harris is a pastor in Charlotte, North Carolina.  I knew then it was not a lame attempt at humor, but a serious stand on an issue, or as Dr. Harris positions it, the war on marriage.  Then it made sense, and wasn’t the least bit shocking.  Dr. Harris has political aspirations, so his condescension here also makes perfect sense.

Wherever you stand on the issue of same-sex marriage is not the matter at hand.  However, it is 2012 and I question why the uproar over the sanctity of marriage.  I believe that Americans running their traps about the sanctity of marriage is faulty; our track record regarding marriage in this country excludes us as experts on this topic. 

We have the right to our set of beliefs.  What perturbs me is that Dr. Mark Harris runs this religious rhetoric to anyone who will listen (and donate) in hopes to pass state legislation.  It’s no longer about our beliefs, and our right to hold those, it’s now about restricting other’s rights.  Pretty un-American, don’t you think?

I find it strange and somewhat contradictory for a religious figure, such as Dr. Mark Harris, to insist for us to spend a day praying for people not to be granted certain rights because of their sexual orientation.

What does he actually want me to say when I pray? 

Here goes….

Dear Heavenly Father,

I pray that my fellow homosexual Americans, many of whom are family or close friends of mine, and whom I love dearly, are never granted equal rights to marry, especially if they are in a committed relationship of love and respect for one another.  I pray that You ensure the rights that we experience as heterosexuals will never be witnessed in their lifetimes.   Please God, with your guidance, allow lawmakers to use their moral judgment to pass laws that strip the rights of Americans solely based on their differences.  I will say ten extra Hail Mary’s on National Pray for Marriage day for ignorance to continue on and on.

Amen.

Spending money on campaigns like this to coerce voters is quite embarrassing, to say the least, for this country of ours.  I am perplexed at anything in America these days forwarded to suppress its very own citizens.  What amazes me is that these campaigns purport to defend rights, “Vote FOR Marriage”, as if anyone is voting against marriage.  Oh wait, that’s exactly what he wants us to do, vote against marriage.   

If am so lucky to one day meet this man of busted moral foundation that sent my wife the email, I would ask Dr. Mark Harris this one question.  

“How could you make up the worst national day ever, and then choose to have it on the same date as National Pistachio Day!?”    

I guess I just don’t grasp his thought process.  I am grateful that I will never share most of the same beliefs of Dr. Mark Harris. 

I am quite sure Dr. Harris has influence over his congregation, but his reach is limited.  Try to imagine for a moment if someone with these similar social ideals tried today to run for President of the United Sates and garnered some early successful results in primaries, we as a country would laugh our faces off……..Oh wait. 

This dinosaur of an issue has long been decided.  Equality will win out.  Take a look around, states are coming around, slowly, but coming around nonetheless. California’s Prop 8 has been ruled unconstitutional and later this summer the state of Washington will begin issuing marriage licenses for same-sex couples. 

The vast majority of people in this country, especially within younger generations, don’t give a fuck about who marries who; they have real shit to ponder regarding their future.  They believe diversity is a positive thing.  I hope that North Carolina will not intertwine organized religious beliefs with state laws, but I am also a realist.  I guess I’ll have to pray on that one.  Thanks for the inspiration Dr. Mark!

If a church doesn’t want to perform marriages for same gender couples, then they have that right. However, it should stop there; religion should have no say in government.  We know already how that story plays out.

Someday my daughter will read about these few years in her American history class, I just hope her teacher has a sense of humor.

The social views of Dr. Mark Harris and many others around this country are comical.  Do we Americans really eat this shit up?  If so I give this country way too much credit at times.

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1,825 Comments

  1. Ginny

    Great post Matt… I find the whole debate and conversation tired. So tired that participating in it, getting angry about it, and trying to stand up for my rights as a tax payer – and a significant one at that – and an American is futile, exhausting, and bothersome. I plan to have a ceremony, that you will be officiating, with the love of my life, Jennefer Parks, in October. At this point in my life, who gives a shit if it’s recognized by anyone but our families and us. The conversation is old, there are many other topics I’d rather spend my time thinking about… I’m over it.

  2. Kelly Green

    LOVE LOVE LOVE the example prayer. When will loving all beings be recognized as the universal truth? Maybe that’s what I’ll pray for on Sunday…

    • that God created every natoin (race, ethnic group) from one man (Acts 17:26). My Bible also speaks highly of a mixed-race man by the name of Timothy, as well as his mother who married outside her race.In the Old Testament, marrying peoples who were not circumsized was frowned upon, but if a foreigner gave up foreign gods, the males were circumsized, and God was worshipped, then there was no problem and intermarriage was permitted. The issue was not race, but whether or not they worshipped God or foreign gods.Frowning on different races marrying is from human tradition, not Biblical truth. It is yet another example of Matthew 15:1-9 and Colossians 2:6-23, where people make up their own rules and teach them as if they were Christian doctrine. It is deception and poison to the church of Jesus the Christ and gives God an undeserved bad name. Because of people who teach this the name of God is blasphemed among the natoins (Romans 2:24).The division of race is a human idea, as we see various ethnic groups with physical and cultural traits in common, we call them a race. This is completely artificial. And it cannot Biblically limit who marries who.

  3. bob norton

    AMEN! We need to be asking God to forgive us for our ignorance and self righteous attitudes. Some people have a hard time accepting that they are not the only CHOSEN ones and that we are ALL God’s creatures.

  4. Michelle Crow

    I am completely lost in what your debate is Mr. Matt Ankerson. I find attacking a man of God who bases his morals and standards upon the bible and preaching it a disgrace. Do you go to church?? Do they teach the bible?? Do they teach right from wrong?? Do YOU walk out when they teach “Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors wife, Thou shalt not kill? I could go on and on…but the rules of the bible don’t change for no one. I feel certain as you say “it is 2012” your granparents nor my grandparents seen fit to change the bible or the laws of the land for anyone. I seen that email that you have complained about (freedom of speech: a right that was given to us by our four fathers)as an invitation…NOT A MANDATORY MEETING, regarding the way he and lots of people believe, to talk to our God in prayer over what they believe. He didn’t bash anyone, he didn’t use homemade backwoods curse words to demean anyone(good job by the way) to persuade anyone. It was merely an invitation to participate. No more alarming than an invitation to come to church. I would think if you were a man of intelligence your recourse would have been to promote a “For Homosexual Marriage Day” since you found out it can be done without any permits, paperwork or applications. Oh my gosh, you might have to stand up and really fight people who don’t think like you do and put YOUR NAME ON IT and actually stand behind it. INSTEAD you rant about the audacity of Dr. Mark Harris excercising his right to voice his opinion and fight for his beliefs which he has the right too. So let me sum this up for you in lay-mans terms so you can understand!!! You blatently attacked a man’s RIGHT to speak about RIGHTS that haven’t been bestowed upon individuals as of yet….hmmm. Just so you know, the whole the “The vast majority of people in this country, especially within younger generations, don’t give a fuck about who marries who; they have real shit to ponder regarding their future”. WRONG BUDDY!!! You ask any gay middle schooler or any gay highschooler and you will find out you are COMPLETELY WRONG! Their rights are bullied each and every day!! Kids today have NO TOLERANCE and are cruel! You might want to not fight your obviously adult sister or sister in laws battles because they are adults. You might want to make more awareness for the upcoming gays who are getting bullied, just a thought GENIUS. I would like to know if your grandmother or her mother felt this way and if you would attack her and her preacher in this same way?? The beliefs have not changed, just the people. Dr. Harris is preaching as every other preacher has and all preachers do, maybe YOUR tolerance has changed. He isn’t taking away rights that somebody already has, he is merely fighting for the rights of a man and woman marriage. Just in cased you missed the point….”HE IS FIGHTING TO KEEP THE SANCTITY OF A MAN AND WOMAN”. But incase you didn’t hear all that….Question: If two men get married and live as husband and wife….Do you ACTUALLY feel as if they are as equal as YOU AND YOUR WIFE??? I am cocky enough that I am gonna answer that question for you… NO! So stop attacking people for their opinions and don’t try to drag in anything else. Political, blah, blah,blah….you attacked a man you were sure he wouldn’t fight back, but there are people out there that will. LIKE ME!!

    • Jenne Parks

      To Whom It May Concern (i.e. the above responder, Michelle),

      I will not question your intelligence because I have long understood that ignorant people CAN be intelligent people. I cannot, however, let your rant rest without defending “THEY”, we, us, them, and those who you so adamantly and sadly deplore.

      It is people like you who squash the wonder, optimism, hope and love that I naturally feel for mankind. It is people like you who don’t even know as you SAY or TYPE that YOU ARE THE BULLY. Don’t worry about Mr. Ankerson. Instead, ASK YOURSELF, and all of the close-minded people like you, why it is that gay middle-schoolers are getting bullied?

      I SEEN (sic) YOUR RESPONSE AND THEREFORE, I KNOW THE ANSWER. IT IS YOU. You are the reason. Your ONE angry, tiny and insignificant voice still has the ability to speak volumes to a sponge-like, young and forced audience; the children who live in houses with people like you listen & learn. Even when those sweet, innocent children are told that we should love thy neighbor, people like you & Dr. Harris devalue and destroy the very idea of doing so.

      It is people like you who create uncertainty and skepticism about those who are different; both of which lead to bullying.

      Kindness moves mountains, Michelle. Acceptance opens doors, makes room for change and diffuses misunderstanding. And just one of your above statements proves to me that you either don’t care about ANY one of those qualities, or worse yet, you just don’t get it…

      Take God out of this. What you & Dr. Harris forget, or have failed to learn altogether, is that the institution of marriage is a secular, and social institution.

      Additionally, *the Bible is a complicated collection of writings and was never meant to speak to our contemporary situation. Twisted advocates such as yourself *should note that Adam and Eve would still need to purchase a civil marriage license if they sought to get married today. (*Lee Jefferson, The Huffington Post)

      There is nothing attributed to Jesus that has anything to do with same-sex orientation and same-sex practice is a topic to which Biblical authors paid VERY little attention. For those of you itching to begin typing comments in regards to Sodom & Lot…I say, do your research, PLEASE. Hint, hint, Dr. Harris.

      *The Bible does NOT condemn loving gay relationships. It is NOT opposed to justice and equality for gay people, and in fact it supports their equal right to marry. Scripture can prove to be one of our greatest allies, if only we’re reading it correctly. (*Matthew Vines, The HuffPost)

      I was not raised in a family that accepted prejudice or hatred. I honestly cannot believe that others were (and still are) raised differently, but it seems that you were, and for that, I am sorry.

      As my oldest son so simply stated a few years ago, “I learned what you and Ginny are. You’re homophones. You know? Two words that sound the same, but have different meanings.” And until the unfortunate inevitability of encountering people such as yourself & Dr. Harris, my son will continue to see us as HOMOPHONES, and that is exactly what we are.

      Sincerely,
      Jenne Parks

      “People need loving the most when they deserve it the least.” – John Harrigan

      • Ali

        Nicely put, Jenne! It’s so kind of you not to question Michelle’s intelligence, when she is so clearly beyond ignorant. Her garbled, grammatically disastrous retort does nothing for her cause. But Kelly Green is right, we should love all beings, even, perhaps especially, the pathetic ones.

      • Jenne, unfortunately what Matthew Vines said was very one-sided and misleading. To say that the Bible supports gay marriage is questionable in the extreme. Anyone citing Vines is best to have first reviewed some of the many critiques on his angle, eg http://stasisonline.wordpress.com/2012/04/10/homosexual-marriage/

    • ty blue

      U ASSUME MARK HARRIS IS A MAN OF THE BIBLE AND IS HOLY BUT, THIS ASSERTION IS QUESTIONABLE AND, NOT SO PALPABLE TO ME AND, NOT SO APPARENT TO OTHERS BECAUSE,REAL CHRISTIANS ARE UNMISTAKABLE,WHOM WE ARE AND WHOSE WE ARE IS,INEXORABLY AND VISIBLY TENABLE.WE BOLDLY CONFESS WE ARE CHILDREN OF A LOVING CARING ALL INCLUSIVE GOD! AS A PERSON SPEAKETH SO ART THOU(WE),WHAT WE SPEAK COMES FROM OUR HEARTS. GOOD AND BAD CANNOT EXIST WITHIN THE SAME HEART DEAR,ESPECIALLY, WITHOUT ONE TRAIT CONTAMINATING,COUNTERMANDING AND CIRCUMVENTING THE OTHER FULLY. YOU’RE NOT EVEN A WOMAN OF THE BIBLE SO,ENOUGH WITH MISINFORMATION ALREADY! YOUR PURVIEW IS NOT VISION OR BIBLICAL ITS ONLY RUMOR,CONJECTURE,PERSIFLAGE AND JUANDICED EYESIGHT AND, EVEN MORE THAN THAT,MOST OF US NEED AND CAN REALLY USE THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD JESUS AND THE HOLY SPIRIT RIGHT NOW AND EVERY MOMENT OF THE DAY,ESPECIALLY JUST PRIOR TO US SAYING AND DOING STUPID STUFF, TO PROMOTE AND FOSTER OURS AND YOUR VISION OF LIFE! WHEN WE ACCEPT JESUS INTO OUR LIVES, WE BECOME NEW CREATURES,WITH NEW FEATURES AND WITH A NEW FUTURE!YOUR COGNITION IS FLAWED,FALSE ACTUALLY,MARC HARRIS IS JUST USING THE BIBLE AND OUR CHRISTIAN FAITH TO JUSTIFY HIS HATE OF DISSENT AND IDEAS, USING THE GOODBOOK AS A SLEDGEHAMMER TO SMUDGEON,BLUDGEON THE DIFFERENT ONES INTO CONFORMITY AND ENFORCE HIS HATE AND INTOLERANCE WHILE,GIVING CREEDANCE TO HIS INFIDELITY AND ILLEGITIMACY AS A MAN OF THE CLOTH AND LOVING JESUS. THIS IS NOT LOVE THIS IS THE OPPOSITE OF LOVE WHICH IS INDIFFERENCE,IF LOVE HAS AN OPPOSITION ITS INDIFFERENCE! MOST FALSE PROPHETS ARE SCIONS AND DISCIPLES OF BEELZEBUB,AFTERALL THE BIGGEST PLOY OF SATAN IS TO CONVINCE ALL OF US AND ESPECIALLY,THE LAO DICEAN,TEPID,CURSORY&MAKE BELIEVE CHRISTIANS IN NORTH CAROLINA THAT HE,(SATAN) DOES NOT EXIST AND, WITH YOU FOLKS IN NORTH CAROLINA WE IN OTHER PARTS HAVE OUR SINCERE DOUBTS ABOUT YOU SEEING THE TRUE LIGHT OF THE GLORY OF GOD AS, YOU EMBRACE THE(STELTH)LIES AND RUSE OF THE EVIL ONE.THE DEMONS IN HELL ARE REJOICING BECAUSE THE COVERT MISSION OF DISUNITY AND HATE HAS BENN ACCOMPLISHED IN NORTH CROLINA WHERE VITRIOL,AD HOMINEM AND DISCRIMINATION ABOUNDS! TY

    • Most white people are raicsts. I advise Muslims not to marry Christian American girls not because I am prejudice or raicsts but mainly because of different brought up. I have seen too many divorces between Muslim immigrant men and American women because of their brought in two different cultures and religions. Muslim father always looses his children for two reasons.1. American white Judges in most cases favor white mothers and give more often custody of children to mother’s even if Muslim fathers have good income and care a lot for their children.2. Mother gets custory and in some cases doesn’t allow her children to see father. Also because of her control over children she raises children as Christians and father can not do any thing about it.Most Muslims fathrs give custody of children to mother because of his brought up in Islamic country where Islamic laws allow children to remain with mothers until age 10 (girl) and 12 (boy). These laws were made centuries ago by early scholars of Islam based on the Sunnah and Ahadiths of Prophet of God. Bases of these laws are that:1. it is devastating for mother if children are taken from her. It is also extremely difficult for children to loose their mother. 2. Secondly by nature mother can love and care to her children much better than father at young age. Islamic laws require mother to send her daughter at age 10, and sons at age 12 to their father. A. After age 12 boy needs father to learn how to be a man from his father and girl needs to learn her father (a male figure) which will help her to become good wife in future. Education and marriages of children is financial responsibility of father and not the mother.B. Another reason is that if mother remarrys, her daughter is nothing to her new husband and he can molest her which happens a lot in west. Because western mothers don’t give the daughter to father until she becomes adult even if she marrys. Muslim mother always sends her daughter to her father’s house for her protection, further education and her marriage by her father. to educate her and to marry his daughter .These rules were made by early Islamic scholars based on Prophets instructions. Most Muslim parents follow these rules with out any reservations. Mothers seldom stop children to meet their fathers. Paremts rarely have court cases about child custody in all Muslim countries.

  5. Michelle Crow

    Fortunately opinions are like assholes, everybody has one….SOME PEOPLE HAVE TWO!!!

  6. Michelle Crow

    Just for clarification…when did heterosexual become the “chosen” ones Bob??

  7. Ali

    Wow, Michelle. You’re really stupid, aren’t you?

  8. Kim

    Perhaps Michelle should actually look up the proposition and understand it before going on such a long rant that makes absolutely no sense.

    Matt–you are a fabulous human being.

  9. MIchelle Salcedo

    The sanctity of everything is threatened when hate overrides love, when spite overrides acceptance, and when judgement overrides dialogue.

    How can one who calls themselves a child of a God that is loving and who claims to live in the style of his son that put himself as an advocate for justice stand to deny the right of a truly loving relationship to another?

    If someone you loved came to you and said, “this is who I am and this is who I love”, who you cast them out based on ancient writings that were written by fallible men as interpretations of God’s word?

    If “National Pray for Marriage Day” were to come to pass, I hope that the prayers are that every marriage be a safe haven instead of a terror that some are. I hope the prayers are that every marriage forms a solid foundation for each human being to grow in the glow of love – instead of the cute photo op it is for some. I hope that the prayers are that every marriage is full of joy and laughter – not a sullen shell of neglect and nothingness that it is for some. I, however, will not waste my prayers that marriage be between two certain people. Because, frankly, I would rather save my prayers for things that really matter.

  10. My Lord and Savior

    You all talking love and acceptance but I have seen no love and acceptance of each other. All this disrespect and neck biting when all everyone of you is doing is hating on each other for having different opinions. Everybody has a right to they own opinion and not be ridiculed and criticised. How you gonna tell someone they raise they kids to hate somebody and that is where bullying comes from, then turn around and claim love and acceptance for one another. Someone has a different opinion then yous and they the reason for prejudice. Judgement has been around for a long time and I still feel it everytime someone looks at my skin color. Everybody has a voice in the name of the Lord no matter how tiny you all may think it is. That is nothing but words from hate in your heart. But I will tell you all something, Jesus Christ is no hater and says that you can’t love him if you don’t love your brother. What people do and how people think is nobody’s business but them and GOD’s buisness. What anybody does behind closed doors is their business and God’s. No matter if you believe or not, the judgement day will come and that’s all any of yous should be worried about. I will leave you all with 3 things and then I will pray for you all.
    Psalm 105:15 “Do not touch my anointed ones; do my prophets no harm.”
    Matthews 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
    John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
    God Bless

  11. Michelle Crow

    Dear Jenne,
    Thank you for your thoughtful opinion that you are so entitled to. Funny how that freedom of speech works, huh? Once again the actual issue was diverted and this became a personal attack on myself because I believe that everyone does have a right to voice their opinions and beliefs without criticism. Not one word, in any sentence did I say that I regretted or that I approved what his cause was but that he as a clergyman, a speaker or just a human being has the right to stand up for his beliefs without malicious attacks on his character.
    Now, just for thought, as you say “Take God out of this, Preacher” exactly what is this preacher supposed to preach about? That is about the equivalent of saying “Leave the law out of this Lawyer”. What would a lawyer do without all 8 years of school if he couldn’t practice law. What does a preacher do without God in his sermons. I got your point on “the bible is man-written”, but think about it this way, so is every other book in the world. How are we certain that George Washington was the first president? How do we know that Native Americans were here in the US first? We were taught that in books that man wrote. Things that we actually believe. Does that make us ignorant or stupid that we believe these things? We weren’t actually there and who knows who and how many people put a twist on these histories that we put all stock in to being truths. We don’t question, mock or criticize history teachers for teaching us that. So my question is why is it okay to mock and demean someone who preaches his beliefs from what he has been taught and what he reads in his bible? Why has this become anything other than a man who has a right to stand by his beliefs, beit religious, morally, whatever his cause is, get to speak?
    According to you, if anyone differs opinions or beliefs other than yours (or what your were taught) then they were brought up in ignorance and need pity for their pathetic existence and are beneath you. WRONG! Maybe you should have been taught that no one is alike nor think alike and we all exist on this crazy little planet together and somehow all have to get along, and it is okay if we all think differently.
    We are not all going to agree and it’s perfectly alright to not all agree, in a respectful manner. Makes for a good ole’ debate, as long as everybody can keep their heads, and be respectful of the opposition.
    Just to blow your mind and add a little depth and devil’s advocate to the conversation. I have a very large family. With the 21 kids my maternal great-grandmother had, and the 12 my maternal grandmother had, and in another state the 8 children my paternal great-mother had and the following 8 my grandmother had there were lots of diversity and throw in all us cousins after that. Having 4 homosexual cousins and 1 aunt and uncle caused for alot of controversy in the family. All my life, not ONE pushed their status of “gay or straight” on anyone. I am close and love each and everyone of my family members and have always no matter what.

  12. Michelle Crow

    Had or if in future tense someone attacks my homosexual or heterosexual family personally for standing up for what they are or what they stand for in such a manner as Matt Ankerson did this preacher, I would be right on their shirt tails just as I have done this. I have many very religious members and preachers in my family and regardless of their beliefs, they also don’t attack so mindlessly against others. I can and have stayed neutral until someone becomes wreckless and badgering on either side of the coin.
    Contrary to what you might believe, my issue was as little as this preacher in Charlotte, NC had the right to invite anyone to pray for what he believed in peacefully, whether I agree or not, he has that right. Just as my gay family members have the same right to stand behind and promote their opinions and beliefs without being bullied or slandered.
    Now, with that being thoroughly explained and no rock left uncovered. I have not, nor will not attack your character for your opinions, or assume I know the way you raise your children and I expect the same respect. Don’t portray that you know me or my kind as I need not your pity nor your empathy for the way I was raised and how I believe . You have no idea who I am or what my upbringing is and especially how I raise my children. It would be best for you or anyone else to not assume that people who don’t think like you as ignorant and bullies. I would think being a mother of your own you would be a little more open minded than that and that we have to prepare our children for all the atrocities in this world and the closed minded people they will encounter. Regardless don’t speak of what or how I teach mine, because you don’t know. That is one book you haven’t read. We disagree,whatever, fine. Leave it at that. However don’t get it twisted with what my opinions are about a man being able to express his beliefs, with how I raise my children. That would be a big misconception and show how arrogant you really to assume that you know any different.

  13. Michelle Crow

    An instance of bullying I would like to share. I was involved in what happened to be a really nice, civil blog regarding the Vote4Marriage issue. It was comfortable enough that I actually shared how I was going to vote and my many reasons why, as many many people had. It was quite nice and there were lots of different opinions and all handled respectfully untill low and behold a couple of bullies decided to enter in. This was one of the comments (taken straight from the blog) “well then your sister is living in sin and doesn’t deserve children, you are willing to let the queers loose to fit your families lifestyle…she and you will surely die and go straight to hell for not supporting what is right. If everyone in NC don’t get off their fat asses and stop drinking alcohol and doing drugs then your children will deserve everything they get!”
    Seriously? A simple I see your point but I disagree would have been suffice. Why the complete disregard for my right to peacefully state my beliefs even if she didn’t agree without it becoming a personal attack. Luckily the site removed her and her cohorts comments, which got worse before I could respond. I did copy it though. Hell I could have lived with a “in the bible it says that she is fornicating” which I would have respected her beliefs. Goes to show it pays better to just keep your opinions to yourself anymore!

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